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All of the blank toggle guns are reported as Police guns. An inspection of other pre-WW1 Artillery holster/stocks in the collection shows yet another shape/style and size of cleaning rod pouch/sleeve affixed brass stud. slides open to reveal five compartments containing: a folded, felt-like material cleaning rag. Pictured is an (officers) Upper Silesian "Landespolizei" buckle. Due to the different design of the variation 1 muzzle protector this particular interference issue is not encountered. of "P". The weirdest part is the stamp on the inside back panel. wooden box sliding cover lid, which by von thoma 07 May 2016, 02:26, Post Pictured are three views of a fine example holster; view 1, view 2, view 3. The chemical is a yellowish clear liquid with a consistency expected of a light oil. N.b.5. The other marking is an inspection stamp, consisting of a crown over a 'fraktur,' or letter. S.B.13.435 - Berlin unit 13 - Pistole s/n 9140e. Rock Island Auctions has over 100 Lugers at their upcoming Premier Auction in May including carbines and artillery models and rare pistols meant for Persian, American, and Russian markets. The matching serial number is marked on the barrel extension, front of the frame and bottom of the barrel with the partial number "33 on most small parts including the inside of each grip panel. The It was procured from private stockWhat real difference would it make to the Heers WaA if they ordered a new holster or procured one from existing stock? A complete discussion of The last numbers on the line indicate the item number of the item that was Mfg Part Number. 1374v. 1 Making Modern Germany Chapt. Vorfchrift fr die Waffen= und Schieausbildung der Ordnnungspistolen. Hard to find historic variation. Opinion 3: I strongly believe what you have is a Heeres-Zeugamt produced holster. This is particularly believable as this holster was not for a primary combat activity. Compare the above to this World War I 1917-dated DWM Artillery Luger with the more appropriate German markings.. BACKGROUND: During the Weimar era, (circa 1919-1933) the largest of the independent German police forces was the Preuen Schutzpolizei, (Prussian Protection Police) in the newly established FREISTAAT PREUEN, (Free State/Republic of Prussia), within the Weimar Republic. The Publisher. The Shah ordered 1,000 four-inchers and another 1,000 of these bad boys in 9mm. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. They appear to fall into two categories: P08s that always were P08s and P08s that were formerly unmarked Landjgerei LP08s (many 1918 DWM LP08s) that were reworked by the PTV in 1929-30 and reissued as P08s to the Landjgerei and other police. Bie der Reubearbeitung des Kap. FN Browning M1922 7.65 mm pistol, stamped, interestingly. Translated cover of The Police Pistols, Dresden manual. May the second application of every police officer continue to be a good leader in the difficult area of police action. Take care and thanks for the quick response. This association is not supported by any distinguishing markings different from any other Landjgerei marked Police holsters. Additionally, by restricting the insertion of the cleaning rod end, with affixed Reinigungsgdocht[6] or cleaning wick flush to the chamber face, prevents it from becoming detached, which could happen with a longer cleaning rod extending beyond the barrel/receiver chamber face. We know now that it was DWM who started the v block. The cut-back, first conversion feature of the subject police holster involved forming a regular curved, P.08 holster style, closed, stitched toe. Compare the above to this World War I 1917-dated DWM Artillery Luger with the more appropriate German markings. The holster was obtained with a cleaning rod, marked on a milled flat section of the shaft Sunburst S (1932-36), specifically made to be used with police Lugers. An identical pistol variation is aptly described, very few of these early DWM/BKIW/Mauser Oberndorf assembled P.08s were made and. 1935 and 1936 are the only known manufacturing dates for the TP or Technische Polizeischule property marked holsters. Regimental markings on a 1916 P08 Luger - Arms and other weapons - The Great War (1914-1918) Forum. HIPO was organized under - and quite similar to -the Gestapo: Some uniformed to be visible, some civil dressed working in secrecy. violations of the Treaty of Versailles by the German police. 1933-1945: Mauser Lugers. Another NAZI era example being the Walther PP and PPK pistols pictured in Axis Pistols 1986 by J. The lack of a holster maker on the rear, between the belt loops is not unusual considering its WW1 Imperial army origins, however, there is also no evidence of a maker mark under the cover flap. It is possible the second conversion was even later, around the start of WW2, and if true would Receiver proof, some post war reworked Lugers. Even though the unidentified holster has been modified to fit a P.08, it is suggested by collectors that the Railway Protection Police mostly used non-Luger pistols. German: Foreign Mfg. Police Lugers: German Police Lugers & their markings, 1918-1958 by Tinker. Berlin government dissolved the Einwohnerwehr. Brown would be rural. He must have the intellectual armament for his exercise of the environment so completely that he always meets the right. This 1943 dated police holster represents the last year Germany made all leather Police holsters. police issue 7-inch Pictured is a black dyed 1933 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era (1929-36) Sunburst police inspection stamp and P08 pistol issue number S.E.I. The initials MG represent machine gun and the number being (page 108) 10th Training Corps or (page 216) with the 10 denoting the team number. Polizei-Praesident Berlin=The Royal Police-President Berlin. A community dedicated to Lugers, Central Powers, Axis, Allied and related WW-I and WW-II pistols by their scholars, collectors, owners and enthusiasts. WaA107 Mndungsschoner, circa 1934 1937, Pictured is another variation 1 muzzle protector in the collection stamped 2866. unidentified police marking that has been partially obscured and covered with X marks and a small, unidentified police inspection stamp. Hardback with dust cover. Please help me with identifying those markings. it was made without a loading tool pouch under the cover flap and the cover flap lacks a keeper for the holster body attached closing strap. Boasting classy lines, a well-recognized pedigree, and great ergos for a small all-steel gun, Smith & Wessons take on the Walther PPK/s aimed to revive an old carry king in the increasingly polymer-focused concealed carry market. Since the HZa used the WaAJt instead of the HZaJt stamp, I would suspect it was a new made item and not a reissued piece. Faint illegible ink stamp inside the flap (Zeitz?). Police Luger ? For my database of police markings, could you tell me the serial number of this pistol and whether or not it has sear and/or mag safeties? had its own police buckle. 2 St 16 - item 16 of the 2nd patrol unit. The purpose of the added entrance leather section with a second brass stud to the cleaning rod pouch is therefore unclear, and without removing the original brass stud creates a second barrier to inserting the cleaning rod, however, there is no issue with the insertion of a navy, six ring wooden barrel handle, 5.5 m/m diameter cleaning rod without a brass stopper, as it completely seats, allowing the cover flap to close over the wooden barrel handle with no interference. Goertz and D. Bryans, Walsworth Publishing Co., Marceline MO, USA, 1997. The Shah ordered 1,000 four-inchers and another 1,000 of these bad boys in 9mm. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 3 ----------------------------------------------------------. This book contains English translations of the actual regulations issued by the German authorities from the Imperial and Weimar eras, and is an invaluable source of information about the often obscure markings found on German weapons and equipment until 1937 This is German WWI Naval crown m marked on the left receiver. 3. The base forms of the unit marks for this police force are contained in A noted holster collector and expert states after examining pictures of the subject unidentified maker cut-back Artillery to Police holster that: The cleaning rod leather section added to the subject Artillery cleaning rod pouch or sleeve, came from an original sleeve. And in closing, a little German Police marching music Hoch Deutschland Marsch Hermann Richter Grosses Blas-Orchester der Schutzpolizei Berlin. He should work on the internal corsage, promote public security, order and tranquility and, above all, give every citizen the opportunity to fulfill his moral duty to exercise his intellectual and physical strength to the full. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated Gustav Reinhardt Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst K police inspection stamp and marked L. Sch.137. LUGER POLICE P-08 MAGAZINE. Thanks, Dwight, for setting the record straight about these blank toggles. 7: 505: . 1933-1945: Mauser Lugers. officially discontinued. It worked through various Polizei-Direction or Knigliche Polizei-Richtung=Royal Police-Direction, Der Kgl. indicating issue to the Railway Police in Halle. Since the Germans used the FN M1922 during WW2 it is curious that the 1950s U.S. steel rod with brass muzzle stop for 4-inch barrel P.08 Luger pistols with -techn. He does not mention if the pistols had been serialized at that time; if so these might have had serial numbers in the 's' block (Dwight might be helpful here). The ERMA marked variation 2 muzzle protector seems most apt for the 4mm sub caliber training assembly. These discussions have taken place by numerous collectors in the pages of. pistols were rejected at the acceptance procedure it would explain that these were replaced with some pistols in the v block. though provides no picture. Command of maintenance/supply section, Wirtschaftsamt Included with the lot is a black leather flap holster (converted from Artillery to Police configuration, renumbered to match pistol, extensive hand . 5.6 (Cleaning Kit 34) pictured (Fig. although some examples have been modified to a single loop belt carry by rotating the In Berlin, the German Police screwed the barrels out and replaced them with 9 mm barrels. German weapons and equipment until 1937, when unit marking of materiel was RARE W.W.II GERMAN POLICE LUGER MAUSER HOLSTER - OTTO STUERTZ ALLENSTEIN. and shipped to Mauser in the great move of 1930. Without delay, lets get into the coolest of the bunch: DWM Model 1900 7.65mm Ejercito Mexicano marked commercial pistol made in hopes of gaining contracts with the Mexican military. 9mm; 95% blue, 90% straw, very good bore, near mint grips, 4'' barrel, The metal finish is very good, but it has slight muzzle wear on the left side of the barrel. Apparently, as to whether to modify the cleaning rod pouch/sleeve and or cover flap of a cut-back Artillery to Police holster to accommodate a Police cleaning rod is necessary, all depends on the availability multiple makers of used and unused WW1 Artillery holsters to different Artillery holster leather makers in 1920s Germany that were available to a host of leather craftsmen to be refurbished for Police use. 19-105, being offered by a noted dealer for an equally extremely rare four-digit price, Possibly post-WW2 East Germany DDR Police holster. 9mm Luger Caliber. Brass stud added to the (cover) flap, additional brass stud added to the cleaning rod pouch. August Weiss confirms that these pistols were sold by Mauser to the German Police; this solves my problem. Specifically, the reason, thought to be for the exact length of the cleaning rod shaft from the tip to the brass stop of 135mm when inserted through the 4-inch barrel installed muzzle protector, extending though the barrel, is meant to end flush to the chamber face. Akah made commercial holsters in the 1920s and 1930s with some used by the Germen Polizei. Borge Villy Redsted Pertersen, alias 'Lieutenant Larsen' and other cover names, was among those who overcame. This was removed and the hilt was shortened accordingly. ERFURT LUGER 1920/1917 POLICE REWORK - C40363 9mm; 96% blue, 40% straw, very good bore, good grips, 4'' barrel, This is a Police reworked pistol. It cites the folded-over or closed holster body toe of the pictured 1924 example that twin belt loops were added to the holster rear. History Writ in Steel 2009 by L. Donald Maus in Chapter 9, on page 139 the author states: The markings from the Hannover district are some of the most confusing Ive seen. Versailles, and after repeated demands by the IMKK, on June 29, 1921, the - Kommando Wuertzburg, Kraftfahr-Sonderabteilung, the subject cut-back artillery LP.08 holster to P.08 holster police marked S.B. Taming the SFAR: How Ruger's Small-Frame .308 Runs Suppressed. installed over the barrel sight block blade assembly as a single unit with the Additionally, pictured below are pages 94 and 95 of WOL showing an early supply poof E/HZa.JL.16, two army equipment depot proofs E/HZA.J.L.3 and HZA.JL.78 with the J representing building and L representing Lager or Depot and the digits representing the depot number. Example 1. The frame tells us that it was an artillery (200mm barrel) and has had the barrel replaced by Simson & Co., the only one authorized to build Lugers after the great war by the treaty of Versailles. Below is continuing description of the second and final conversion. German firearms are loaded with a variety of markings and stamps. They're not Nazi at all, just Imperial German. 03-16-2021 11:59 AM by mrerick. links[3]='http://www.marnamilitaria.com'; This is a standard 1934 Model gun designated by collectors as the '39 Mauser Police Banner that was ordered from Mauser for the Police use. Opinion 1: I have come across a very nice WW1 style holster that has some unusual markings. The issue date of this unknown maker Police pistole cleaning kit is post 1945, as after World War II as Wrttemberg was in the newly-founded States of Wrttemberg-Baden and Wrttemberg-Hohenzollern. Im Strasrecht haben ebensalls injngster Zeit z. L. erhebliche Umwlzungen stattgesunden. It is interesting to note that in TBLAP, VIII, C19, page 1266 Sturgess states the following: regarding the police cleaning rods: For this purpose, the precincts held the long cleaning rods, similar to the navy P.04 pattern, onto which a brass travel stop was soldered, used in conjunction with the Mndungsschoner (muzzle protector), which was too bulky to fit into any holster (cleaning rod sleeve) compartment and in any case served no purpose if carried on patrol. collar assembly to be aligned with forward main Regarding the S. H.133. by the German authorities from the Imperial and Weimar eras, and is an Interestingly, this pistol was part of an early period, fancy wooden case, which included provisions for two spare magazines, cleaning rod, box of period ammunition and a loading tool. RIA 2018, Bahnschutz RBD Halle S holster offering, A 1914 Gustav Reinhardt Berlin example 1 and a 1915 P. Braunleder Cln example 2. WaA107 Auwrter & Bubeck, Stuttgart 1934, no example noted. This is exactly what I believe happened to this holster. It has the matching last two digits of the serial number in the various other parts. These Nazi Police bayonets are frequently described as Dress bayonets, which is a misnomer. Die Reubearbeitung schlietzt mit dem Monat Mai 1921 ab. Pictured is a 4mm; excellent bore, 5'' barrel insert for Luger pistols chambered in .30 Luger (7.65mm Parabellum) with loading tool; view 1, view 2, view 3. Nachr. . This is even if the cleaning rod got past the upper, definitely added brass stud. 1930s and beyond with a Weimar era made, seven ring wooden barrel handle cleaning rod, as mentioned, specifically made for use with police Lugers, J. My reference book (The Standard Catalog of Luger by Aarron Davis, page 103) shows the eagle with PTV over it. Simson proofs. Maybe it was a rework from the 20's or 30's. (motor transport seciont), Sonderwagenstaffel der Kraftfahrabteilung (armored vehicle squadron), Polizei-Reitschule (police equestrian school), Assigned to Description. of Stettin. Item Information. Most of the Police guns in this range report an eagle/WaA66 acceptance stamp on the right receiver (this stamp is not reported before the, 13 Police reports indicate a complete WaA66 proof and inspection suite, with, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Goering kept them under control of the Luftwaffe Air Ministry while all other Werkschutz units were controlled by the Ordnungspolizei. Approximately 3,000 produced. Landjgerei Wiesbaden or the Prussian rural constabulary, Wiesbaden district. The Fraktur font originated sometime in the 16th century and was then widely used on most documents and written works. The WaA107 stamp is not mentioned or listed in Luger Holsters and Accessories, 1992 by E. Bender and not much is known of the WaA107 army inspection stamp as it has been found on only four holsters to date, listed below, and a 1930s Mndungsschoner or muzzle protector: Pictured is another variation 1 muzzle protector in the collection stamped 2866 with an additional, unidentified police marking that has been partially obscured and covered with X marks and a small, unidentified police inspection stamp. view 3. period and evaded restrictions placed on them. Also, the large double crown U Mauser receiver proof was used for a short time only, less than a year, according to one Luger expert. The table of contents identifies the handling and operation of all pistols used by the German police in Dresden in 1946. Pictured is another variation 1 style police S. B. These were finished and delivered by Mauser as stock on hand in the early '30s. Fr soll an dem inneren Miederausbau mit= arbeiten, die ffentliche Gicherheit, Ordnung und Ruhe frdern und vor allem jedem Brger die Mglichteit geben, seiner sittlichen Bflicht zur Bettigung seiner geistigen und trperlichen Krfte zum Mohle der Gesamtheit zu gengen. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- (communications maintenance squadron), Kraftfahrabteilung Das gibt ihm den inneren halt, das ruhige Uustreten in der Dessentlichteit, den sicheren Erfolg und damit eine gesteigerte Dienstfreudigteit und Liebe zum Berufe. 197 or Landjgerei Hannover with an Imperial crown/D and 197 stamped loading tool; view 1, view 2 and view 3. The magazine safety is intact, the grips screws haven't been tampered with and overall looks like a pretty decent pistol. This is a 9mm Luger manufactured by DWM for the Riff Tribe in Morocco. The corner of the grip was removed to allow the safety to function. Pictured is a German manufactured commercial holster, original pistol model unknown, converted to accept a P.08 Luger pistol by modifying the holster body entrance. The conclusion being that there are a variety of styles/shapes and size of brass studs used by the many different WW1 leather makers of LP08 Artillery holsters and as such, it is difficult to dismiss any of these original period brass studs as aftermarket, not German or not used with Artillery holsters. Was it a difference in caliber or what is obvious that I am missing. slides open to reveal five compartments containing: Hand written in pencil on the top front edge and bottom of the box is Schllhorn, which oddly, translates to cable puller. is described in great detail on page 25, Figure 18, see page 137 of Eugene Bender's "Luger Holsters & Accessories" for a similarly marked holster, RIA 2013 Paul Goldner RBD Halle holster, sold for $3133, Poulin 2015 Auction, Bahnschutz holster, front view only, eBay Auction, 1933 Paul Goldner Halle a. S. holster, RIA 2018, Bahnschutz RBD Halle S holster offering, Luger Holsters & Their Accs., P137 Bahnschutz holster, M. Morris, This association is not supported by any distinguishing markings different from any other, later style, purportedly Magdeburg Depot rework Mg10 Stick Wing eagle stamps have been identified on the rear frame of P08 Lugers, Weimar eagle style E/Mg10 stampings of the 41 dated WwMg/41 and E/Mg10 P08 holsters, a stand-alone E/Mg10 Nazi Swastika stamping on a 1933 dated Robert Larsen Weimar era Police holster, two 1933 Robert Larsen Police holsters with and without the E/Mg10 eagle, an eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police inspection stamp, a unique eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police B inspection stamp, Only two are identified in publications and only partial pictures, made of impregnated pressed paper and is pictured in TPLAP, V3, page 1245 Fig. The lack of relevant textbooks has often been put to the test. The base is too thick and the ball shape is incorrect. when raising the height of the cleaning rod pouch sleeve by adding a piece of leather, at the time simply removed or did not add the lower brass stud, extending the longer section, lower leather piece to where it covered the existing brass stud location. MAUSER 1942 BANNER POLICE EAGLE L LUGER RIG - Z52521 9mm Luger; 95% blue, excellent bore, very good grips, 4"'' barrel, Bright original finish with light scratches. The conclusion being is that the modification, if indeed done for the reason described, was an ill-conceived, poorly thought out exercise that didnt work out, and that the special Police cleaning rod with added brass stopper, as stated by some Luger authors, was never intended to be carried in a cut-back Artillery to Police holster, with the subject holster being the sole published example so modified. Still 1993 on page 174, Fig. which This is division marked WW3009=Wilhelmshaven Dockyard gun #3009 on the back strap. I think it's a P08 made by DWM ( Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken ). " Chapter 4 3rd Reich Police Lugers Chapter 5 DDR Deutsche Volkspolizei (People's Police) Lugers a complete catalog of Police Luger Markings The book has . View First Unread . Est price: $3,750 $5,500. Eagle/L proofed aluminum bottom magazine is not. police forces to their 1914 level, namely 150,000 men. It is also pictured as part of a police grouping consisting a period 1928 dated Police manual titled: 1928 Nr.7,1 Vorschrift fr die Waffenausbildung der Shutzpolizei or 1928 Nr.7,1 Regulations for the weapons training of the Police and an excellent condition example of the earliest new manufacture, pre-1925 first pattern, Weimar era Police Luger holster along with a 1929 Police Luger, rear gripstrap marked L.W.58 (Landjgerei Wiesbaden, weapon number 58) with original, unmodified magazine . Collectors state the following regarding the WwMg/41 marking: Opinion on these stamps has differed over the years, but current thought is that the marks may be attributed to the waffenwerk depot at Magdeburg. 1918 Dingeldey & Werres-Berlin cut-back artillery to police holster, Luger holstered s/n 5008. Igorak89 Member Posts: 35 Joined: 03 Oct 2013, 10:01 Location: Serbia Re: Luger markings identification - help As you see - new evidence produces mostly new questions. While the vast majority of Landjgerei-marked Lugers are 29 DWMs as noted, there is a small percentage of dated Imperial-era Lugers with these markings. Weimar Police photos of what looks to be all NCO personnel with ordinary belt buckles. 18: . Some of the Police guns are reported with DWM toggles; these do not appear in any recognizable pattern. German Police Unit Marks, 1920-1937. Hierdurch werden die jungen Polizeibeamten vor neue Uufgaben bgestellt, die sich um so schwieriger erweisen, als die neue Polizei nicht nur die Gesahren politischer und wirtschastlicher Kmpse abwehren, sondern vor allem ihrer eigentlichen frheren Tatigfeit zugesuhrt werden foll. Pictured is an (officers) Upper Silesian "Landespolizei" buckle. I could not get the other proof mark to enlarge enough to really see what it is, but with that "L" to the right of it, it is a German Police proof mark. And was then widely used on most documents and written works, 1997 what is obvious I! Hannover with an police luger markings crown/D and 197 stamped loading tool ; view 1, view and! Lack of relevant textbooks has often been put to the different design the! Different from any other Landjgerei marked Police holsters 1934, no example noted the! Leader in the 1920s and 1930s with some used by the German Police in Dresden 1946. D. Bryans, Walsworth Publishing Co., Marceline MO, USA,.. 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