can i mix polymeric sand with pea gravel
Remove the mortar with an angle grinder and chisel/large flatheat screwdriver. Id really have to see what you are working with, what the flagstone looks likeand then it would be a matter of looking into what is available in your area. I was reading up on your post: What to put between flagstone joints polymeric sand or stone dust? I am currently trying to figure out a solution to make stone dust pathways (or some other small, permeable material) with a binding agent that will allow most of the stone to stay in place while also being permeable. Decomposed granite is crushed granite. from what Im able to google on the matter, Im pretty sure 1/4 inch minus is graded properly to be used as a joint material. Good. Read the Instructions. A lifting eye present on the top of . Haven't had a chance to try yet. Thank you. But its not a small thing. I just saw them at the rock yard and thought they looked attractive because of the effect the tumbling had on them. Thank you for your devotion to this subject. Early in my flagstone patio career I used to try and keep the screenings in my flagstone joints as close to level with the stones as possible, but with foot traffic, wind and rain, the joints seem to naturally level off to around an average of one eighth of an inch shy of flush with the flagstone.. Must be a west coast thing. It is an old flagstone patio and the morter is coming out at between the stones. Thanks! Hi I wish I could afford to hire you! Great information and helpful blog! There are some areas that need repair. I researched over a couple of months to set up my metal edges, after leveling the main ground fill my area with 3 inches of Crushed Granit, then compacted with the machine. Additionally, the stabilization method will depend on what your final product is going to be. Three periphery sides have a 2 reinforced cement border to keep everything in place (the 4th side is up against the house). great article wish I would have read it before installing my pavers. But sand wont help and if you do not want to do it proper to begin withthen what you already have is probably fine. A bit of a philosophical question, really. Sounds like a winner, right? If your patio is built upon a concrete foundation then you want to repair the joints with mortar. The wood rotted and has been removed leaving about five hundred feet of trench to fill. consider setting up a phone/email consultation with a professional stone hardscape instructor. Well, i figured pavers are just big stones, and it works for them. For urine & feces odor control I spray the kennels occasionally with yard odor killer, which works great.I don't use cement because it is damaging to the dogs pads.To address my problem:I have a long driveway made with reject ab. Once thats in, you lay out the flagstones and then level them up one at a time using screenings. So glad I found your blog, almost as much as finding a buried 1220 flagstone patio in our backyard! Thats limestone screenings. Read that againstone dust settling down in-between flagstone is a GOOD thing. Anyway, after its gone just sweep in screeinings and be happy. Apparently, the soil under the pavers is too wet from pressure washer stucco and garage and also rain lately and soilbecame pliable. They didnt just turn to slosh. Brick walkway laid over dry sand bed, space between bricks approxly one half inch; all the original material between bricks is gone, now just dirt and weeds (Im constantly having to pull). I have a large backyard, with 150+' x 5' wide pea gravel walkways.I hate them, they are hard to walk on, and moving equipment around is a huge pain, never mind that the dogs constantly kick the gravel into the grass. Unfortunately its been my experience with polymeric sand that you just can not clean it off from paver surfaces. Im not sure what was put between them at the time. I think I also have another issue that I wan to ask about. Good luck! Devin, have you tried NATRACIL as a stabilizer? This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google. We were thinking of doing gravel for the joints because it doesnt rain often in Laredo, but when it does it pours! The only times that Ive seen people having trouble keeping stone dust/decomposed granite in their flagstone joints, the flagstone joints were too wide. The other site is wrong. I almost bought poly sand today to put in our bluestone patio- but then I just spent an hour reading all of your articles. If the steep grading and the wide gaps both need to stay like this, then Id plant a ground cover in the joints. This will be a more stable joint, less likely to wash away, less likely to be over taken by ants. Dont use any real small stones. And polymeric sand, when it fails, is harder to fix than a flagstone joint with screenings in it is. I hope for your sake, and the contractors sake too, that such a fate can be avoided. But tiny cracks do form, and weeds will get in there, roots will grow, cracks will get worse. Fact is that you simply can not use polymeric sand as a replacement for taking your time and doing the job right. I have a full time job and a sheep farm and it is amazing how many people want free food just because I have a farm. I researched the heck out of polymeric sand, and tested out three different kinds. Devin, Before my enlightenment my aha! To be fair Ive seen exceptions! I live just north of Philly (19046). If you are close enough to the area and have the ability to accept tri-axles at your location and keep a stockpile, it may be a worthwhile alternative to fines. Probably not if it's as thick as you said. This article might help a bit too: https://www.devineescapes.com/taking-care-of-your-patio/%. I dont want to discourage you, and I totally think you can do this. Sorry, this website is all about natural stone. 4. Id look for pathway fines/stone dust ect though, as dg is usually the most expensive variety of stone dust. Ive used limestone screenings as the joint material for maybe a dozen flagstone patios, over the years. And the answer is alwaysmake them flagstones fit tighter! This is hard for the dogs to walk on (sharp edges). Will the granite ever solidify or will I constantly be sweeping, spraying, or blowing it off the stone? Most anything youd want to plant in between flagstones will grow in a 50/50 soil/stone dust mix. Looks like the flagstone was set in a concrete base. With the gator dust being not very porous, perhaps heavy rain water could have formed a river beneath the rigid gator dust, undermining the patio. and our Epoxy Resin. Does lime really extend the life of the mortar joint? All the flagstones should be lifted up, the sand replaced with screenings. The gravel also allows water to flow easily through the stones, allowing for excellent permeability. Back when I was starting, in the 90s, some guys would lay flagstones and sweep in sand that had some ratio of cement in it, into the joints, then hose it all down. I wanted the stone far apart so that I could plant grass and ground covering all around. I never use sand, I use stone dust as the leveling agent and joint material, compacted road base gravel as the foundation. However, if you are telling me that you have 6 of compacted road base type gravel in place, and your flagstones are on top of that, with some sand as the leveling agent..then idk, but as a professional who cant afford to have my reputation messed withId take those flagstones back up and lay in screenings. I would like to use something called a tumbled Colorado Red Stepper which is relatively small compared to other stones. Then I pound that stone down, using a deadblow type mallet. Like all new things, it takes a minute before you realize the long term results. so my first thought was ants.I have never seen rodents leave sand piles atop a flagstone, so Im still leaning towards ants. Have you ever used limestone stone dust for flag patios, and if so, would you recommend it? Your email address will not be published. What I do, is I add just enough water to my mortar so that it will bind together, when pushed down on, with a trowel: https://www.devineescapes.com/flagstone-walkway-re-pointing-repair-paoli/. So first we plan to dig out and level the area, then lay down some coarse sand (tamp it) for drainage. I also like your stand on being paid for your knowledge and experience. Im glad that you appreciate my work. And please share it with us if you end up doing something wild with glass or anything fun/artistic like that. Halsted White Sand & Utility Bags 50 lb. Small voids may be left underneath your paving unitsespecially if you are using irregular natural stone. And here is how I repair mortared joints. Place the pea gravel on top of the concrete mix and level it out with the trowel. Thank you for taking the time to post this for the world to see. Havent had any issues of stone dust getting into the pool, 3 years later. Ants? Im going to go back and read through all the comments (there are a lot of them), but I just thought I would ask up front what is your best recommendation? Its popularity increased steadily for a decade and now it is a very common landscape product. I just have to tell you . Stick to plain stone dust is my advice, and keep the joints tight! I will check out your website further. I wouldnt use sand, as its more likely to settle or wash away. Id recommend removing most of the sand. Dig down to mineral soil, clay/sand, you dont want to build on top of organic material. The decomposed granite that I have seen was just screenings made from granite. So Id pop up a stone first and see whats underneath, before committing to a mortared repair. This, I believe, answers your need for a walkway where most of the gravel stays in place, yet is still permeable. Sorry! So IDK, rip out that old drain, and install your new drain correctly. This is in New Jersey by the way. As easy to install as regular sand, almost. Podcast 529: Members-only AftershowHow Good is Good Enough? Also, it is unnecessary. Anyway, if youre just using it in a 1 inch deep, 1 inch wide application, just filling in between flagstones with itthen I dont foresee a problem. Or how to deal with it? If the stones were fit tighter, as a walkway, and you were planning on ground ground cover in between the stones, what i usually do is mix stone dust and soil. Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox. Add at least 20 tons of fines. I have an Arizona flagstone patio & sidewalk with mortar over concrete pad and live in Colorado. Do you think I should cement the tread on top of the cement riser? Deep bow of thanks for all of the wisdom youve shared here with your article and the comment section. Thanks! I generally use flagstones 1.5 thick or thicker for dry laidthinner stones=more likely to wobble underfoot. Sorry for the delayed responseIve been busy finishing up with the years work before the winter sets in. If the stones are set upon a concrete foundation: mortar, as addressed here. Theres white screeningswhich is more a cream/off white color. It is apparently about 12 yrs old. Do you use cold chisels or is a hammer enough? Scroll half-way down on this link and find the section with the heading How to install stone dust in between your flagstones Sometimes people overfill their joints to begin with, then wonder why they have material spilling out onto the patioaim to have your flagstone joints filled to about an 8th of an inch lower than the top of your flagstones. Widen the cracks. I see no upsides. Not sure how far they are from you, but this material looks right. I live in Texas with the soil is mixed clay and moves a lot. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I was wondering if you know the best way to do this and what would be good to use in wider joints. Wait till the joint is somewhat damp, but not soaking and the fill with mortar. Re-read the article please Actually, Ill go back and edit, put a few words in bold and make it a bit more clear. On the other hand, if you are using gravel on a patio, it is best if the pea gravel is completely immovable. Stone dust is usually available in whatever colors if road base type gravel are quarried in your area. Im replacing an existing paver patio that was installed on a gravel/stone dust base with flagstones. I never recommend sealing flagstone. Does anything on this page (http://highlandls.com/products/) or this page (https://www.landscapeandgarden.com/gravel-decorative-rock) jump out to you as being the product you recommend? Fact is, no one really uses it, so I never encounter examples of good, or bad installations using the product. You need a foundation of compacted road base gravel. Usually in that case I would still repair the old concrete, and then mortar down Flagstone. It locks gravel together and stays permeable. Kern in his book, "The Owner Built Home" talks about no-fines concrete. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Great information. Here is an excerpt from another article that I wrote on this subject: In addition to the nasty haze staining your flagstones surface, the toxins that leach out into your lawn and garden, the environmental impact and the wasted financial resourcesthe technical problem, the reason why polymeric sand ruins patios and walkways is this: polymeric sand makes it too easy. I used the granite sand as my leveling layer, too. b) take your time, read all the above articles, and educate yourself well enough to try your hand at a hard task or c) go ahead and live in a lame world where you dont need to fit your flagstones together rightyou can just fill the spaces in between with plastic! Doesnt sound too ingenious, when stated that way, doesnt it? You are building a flagstone patiojust use stone. We bought an older house last year, and what I thought was a small stone landing at the base of the old deck turned out to be an irregular limestone patio. Having not seen the patio in question, I really cant say what is best. Thank you. The large pieces are stable because of their weight, but I am concerned with the smaller mosaic pieces. Possibly free too, if you have gravel onsite. We suspected that the sand had to be replace or refill/reapply, we just didnt know what was causing what we were seeing. Find a way to match the color of the decorative material that they prefer, but ex[lain to them that angular is better. To keep pea gravel from rolling and shifting, tamp it down with a heavy lawn roller or hand tamper after you install it. Ive done this once before. Void formsstone sinkssolid joint sits above voidjoint cracks. Thank you for the great tip! Too narrow of a space to use a tamper, so yeah, just set the stone dust down with water, hose on shower setting. If the gator dust is failing so soon, AND there is such a gigantic cavity forming, one can imagine that there must be something wrong with the gravel foundation beneath the flagstones. When we bought the house, it had ploy sand in the joints that has been crumbling and looks terrible. Looks great, easy to maintain weed 2007: would use concrete- can always be scrubbed and washed down easily. Hello Devin, thank you for the very informative article. What do you suggest or have you had these problems also? Your answers to questions were helpful, thank you. More importantly, are you overfilling your joints? Very helpful, thanks. Shower your pavers to seal and harden the sand. Sorry for the type Os..obviously Flagstone and Stone Dust sorry. Didnt like the sound of the poly sand. SO the flagstones were all pitched away from the pool, the coping was mortared, and besides that all the flagstone joints were set pretty tight. I am planning to make a flagstone patio in my backyard next weekend, after recently completing a natural sandstone retaining wall to level the backyard. Where to buy screenings for base and joint fillings in North Jersey and whats the brand name of the product. Can you suggest how I might fill in what was removed? In maryland you will definitely find screenings, beings sold by that name:screenings. Id go with the stone dust/decomposed granite. Best way that Ive found to remove that sort of haze is to just use a power washer. Wow if this stuff does work, I can start to use it on my jobs. I am in a similar situation where I did not gravel first and have a lot of movement when walking on the pea gravel patio. Thanks for any help you can provide. Any stone masonry supply place, most landscape supply places, and most stone quarries will carry it. Allow the walkway one hour of drying time . Once all the stones are laid, sweep more screenings into the joints. Were using paving sand as the base. AGAIN, major omission on my part. Bravo to this article and its author, Devin. Anyway, I like to set flagstone on a foundation of road base, also-known-as 2A/modified gravel. If I keep the joints tight will the material bind enough to keep water from percolating into ground? Screenings AKA breeze, will stay putso long as the joints are not too wide, the patio is graded properly, and you dont overfill the joints. If its built upon concrete, then it should be repaired with mortar. Dont cover that steak in big mac sauce. I think that where there is soil, the rain results in dirty water covering the stones, making them dirty more quickly than might be expected. Depending on mix ratios, ingredient properties and desired results, peat moss, sand, calcined clay and vermiculite can be used as alternatives to perlite. I wish everyone would do that. The stone dust would just be compacted by wetting and drying? My husband and I are creating a flagstone patio for our fire pit appliance. Anyone use this sand to firm up a stone driveway? Gravel is much less vulnerable to damage from seasonal . Hi Devin. Do you seal your stones after adding the screening? How many inches would you do the compacted aggregate base? My screenings consist of 8th inch stone chips, little particles much smaller than pea gravel, and fine stone dust, which is truly fine, a powder. Thanks for telling me the plastic approach is lame. You can *sometimes dry lay on top of old concrete, using stone dust as a leveler and as a joint material, but you have to be careful that youre not creating a situation ehere water can sit down there in the stone dust in between the flagstone and the concrete. But when I see this happening on other jobs, its always one of two issues, or both: 1. I had a flagstone patio laid 2 years ago. Youve also referred to it as crusher dust. There just isnt any eye appeal to it and was wondering if one could put flagstone over the concrete sidewalk and if so how would you secure it to the concrete and what would you fill the cracks with? They were seated well I pounded each one with the mallet and they were solid pre-rain, no wobble. 1. plastic grid tiles. didn't think far enough on this one. We primarily used poly sand because I wanted to have the patio area be mostly impervious (we have trench drains installed to pick up all the water). The decomposed granite in the second link also looks right, but it will probably cost more. We do have what is called "shaker sand" which is a combination of sharp sand with some pea gravel mixed in (pea gravel that was smaller than normal and was "screened out" from the normal . One of the benefits of a gravel driveway is that it is relatively inexpensive to install, typically around $1-$3 per square foot. Then I carefully used light spraying of water over the joints ensuring they were fully saturated to the full depth of the joint. My front walkway and patio stoop are on a concrete base and have a tan mortar between the flagstone joints. 87880917 4 yr. ago. Very glad I could help One stone at a time, no plastic needed. Best answer: just use gravel. What is the best method of removing this haze safely? Have you had any luck, or heard of any way to do this? Many people would like to do this fine-tuning for their maturing patios but do not know how. Also, Id wait at least 2 weeks before powerwashing over new jointsand at least that long, more like a month, before using acid. Hi I have dog kennel for my dog and I was wondering .Should I use pea gravel or cement I wont something easy to clean. Here you can buy grey gravel, red gravel and cream colored gravel.stone dust is available in those very same colors, because stone dust is graveljust smaller. Is there a liquid or possible caulking that could be used in this type of situation? If things settle down I sure will try something fun! It appears that they ripped 2x 6 in half so that they had 1.5x 2-3/4 material. This will make the pea gravel easier to walk on and give the top of the walkway a uniform height. Thanks again! I selected Galleries and then Flagstone Walkways, the last two images once magnified to 500% show clear images of your stone screenings. The article goes into more detail. However, applying these types of products can reduce the permeability of pea gravel. Thank you Devin for this, preparing to put in quartz flags in Colorado over clay soil, gravel base, love this long term solution you provide with decomposed granite for leveling and filler. Good luck with your flagstone project I hope that my articles are helpful. It just doe not look right, does not at all have the look and feel of real gravel. This second method doesnt clean up quite as easily as the powdery-dry method. Alternatively, i am considering taking the sand out and planting thyme, seedum, etc. I hope not. Just shy of the top. OR, maybe fit small pieces of stone in, laid upright/on edge. We did buy poly sand, but can exchange it for the screening. YES, its supposed to be fun and tiringyoure doing it right! This much material, spread out over that much space, means that the material, the gravel, must only be two or three inches deep. I dont want water to absorb between the pavers so water will run off to the street. What would be recommended to use for joints between flagstones 2 and greater? Few years back I went to take apart a cemented in patio, getting ready to build a new patio, more level and pretty than the oldbig surprise for me is that is was a dry laid patio. You can indeed use the same stone dust for leveling out the stones as well as for in-between the flagstone joints. Are there certain colors light or dark? Even with proper installation, pea gravel can shift and start to move over time. Stones fit flush against each other with an 8th inch or so between themsweep in some stone dustand the dust may even stay put, in such a tight space, but if it washes away, so what? We laid them about 13" apart, so I guess it would be more appropriate to call them stepping stones. Hey! The wheel barrows and shovels and rakes and any tools that touched the glue when it was wet were impossible to clean. The manufacturer recommends clean gaps of just polymeric sand. It is also nice to know you are willing to travel if I have a job in the future that meets your criteria! My guess is that this is a type of decomposed granite or screenings? Nor would I use any sort of caulk. This can make the stone slippery and change its appearancewithout providing any benefit. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Ive been researching decomposed granite and want to use that but cannot find a place to buy it. Have you ever done the cracks in a more creative artistic way? The stones tend to get lodged on your shoes and are dragged into the house. (stabilizing the bed to lay on?) Your sculptures are amazing by the way! We are mixing 4:1 with flagstone dust and the finished joints are noticeably firmer than the dust alone. (a careful pass with the pressure washer shouldnt damage the stones. Material cost is more or less of no importance so if decomposed granite would work better or look better than other stone dust I would use it. Are we looking at removing all the concrete joints and resetting the flagstone on sand/settling as described in your article? Polymeric sand is not a good option for either sort of foundation. These stones will reduce the amount of traffic on the actual pea gravel. Hi Devin. Not my first choice, and if a customer is insisting on using it, I probably will not take the job. Flagstones tend to be larger (2x3 or 3x3), mixed with some smaller units (1x1 or 1x3). Great article Devin. The best way to stabilize pea gravel is to compact it thoroughly and install a base layer of plaster or rock. Thank you, after going over your site more thoroughly, I found you have 2 images that clearly show the product your using. If so, dont use it. STone flour, such a fine dust that dampening it somewhat, sorta binds it up. Do you recommend a sealer be applied at all? Effort PA. Southern Poconos. And thank you Good luck with your flagstone project! Thanks for any advice on this. Stones will still be porous underneathsealing traps in moisture, leads to problemsespecially if your area ever freezes. Its just like with concretewhen you see concrete that was poured maybe a year or 3 ago, and the top layer is flaking up. See the above section about adding proper drainage to make sure you can handle any potential flooding issues. If it means re-grading a bit of yard, or installing a step. Were in the process of installing flagstone with decomposed granite, my contractor just suggested to use polymeric stone dust to fill in the spaces in between the stones, he thinks its a better option for the reasons you discussed above. 1 ton of screenings will do about 200 sq at 1 inch. I have done this, for a client. Last year, I installed the landscape fieldstone for a courtyard but after an injury, had to stop before completing. I addressed the issue of weeds and dry laid flagstone here As it states in the article, personally, weeds between flagstones dont bother me all that muchand if the weeds really are that bad, then a bit of boiling water will dispatch with them nicely. 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